1874-75 FA Cup · The Final

1875 FA Cup Final: Royal Engineers 1-1 Old Etonians (won after a replay)
The first replay final

The 1875 final was the first to need a replay, and the surviving accounts already disagree on who scored the goals that decided it.

Royal Engineers won the FA Cup at the third attempt, beating Old Etonians in a replay at the Oval after a storm-bound first match had finished level.

Royal Engineers Drew
1-1
Old Etonians Drew

Saturday 13 March 1875 · Kennington Oval

What you will not find elsewhere

From the primary record

Modern databases credit William Stafford with a replay goal; the regimental journal does not

Most modern line-ups and databases give the replay scorers as Henry Renny-Tailyour and William Stafford. The Royal Engineers Museum, drawing on the Royal Engineers Journal, says both goals were scored by Renny-Tailyour: the first bundled over the line from a goalmouth scramble after a free kick, the second from a concerted surge of the forwards. The club's own contemporary journal is the closest thing to an authoritative account, so this page lists both goals under Renny-Tailyour and records the disagreement rather than choosing the tidier version.[7][1][5]

Our own figures

All three Royal Engineers goals in the two matches belong to one player, if the regimental account is right

Read the two results together - 1-1 and 2-0 - and the Royal Engineers Journal credits every one of the Sappers' three goals to Henry Renny-Tailyour. That would make him the only scorer in a final that needed two matches to settle, and the decisive figure in the club's only FA Cup win.[7][1]

The footage

No film of this final exists. Motion pictures were still more than a decade away in 1875.

The match report

The fourth FA Cup final was the first that could not be settled in one afternoon. Royal Engineers, beaten by Wanderers in 1872 and by Oxford University in 1874, met Old Etonians at the Kennington Oval on Saturday 13 March 1875. The Etonians were in their first final, and the conditions favoured them from the start: a howling gale blew straight down the ground, and under the laws then in force the teams had to change ends after every goal.[1][7]

The Royal Engineers AFC squad that won the 1875 FA Cup
The Royal Engineers squad that won the cup. Left to right (standing): Mulholland, Onslow, Stafford, Rawson, Mein, Wingfield; (middle): Ruck, Merriman, Tailyour, Donop; (front): Sim, Jones. Unknown authorUnknown author · Public domain · Wikimedia Commons

Old Etonians won the toss and took the wind. They pressed throughout the first half and went ahead after half an hour when Alexander Bonsor curled a corner-kick through the posts, the wind doing most of the work. The change of ends that followed put the Engineers in front of the gale, and within five minutes they were level. Pelham von Donop carried the ball down the right and placed it in front of goal, where Henry Renny-Tailyour finished the move. Soon afterwards Cuthbert Ottaway was carried off with an injured ankle after a collision with Richard Ruck, and the Etonians played a man short for the rest of the match.[7][1]

The Engineers dominated the second half but could not find a winner. A pre-match agreement provided for an extra half-hour if the scores were level, and the additional period was played without a further goal. The Observer reported that the Engineers wore scarlet and blue jerseys and stockings with blue serge knickerbockers, while the Old Etonians were in blue and white, which made the two sides easy to tell apart.[1][7]

The replay was fixed for the following Tuesday, only three days later. The weather was calmer, but Old Etonians arrived weakened: Ottaway's ankle had not recovered, and three other players who had played in the first match were unavailable. The Engineers fielded the same side. Two goals from Henry Renny-Tailyour, the first after a quarter of an hour and the second with a quarter of the match remaining, settled the cup at last. The final score was 2-0.[7][1]

Lord Arthur Kinnaird
Arthur Kinnaird, who played for Old Etonians in both the first match and the replay. Photographed before 1923. Unknown authorUnknown author · Public domain · Wikimedia Commons

It was the first replay in FA Cup final history, and it began a small tradition: fourteen finals in all would need a second match. For the Engineers it was a first and only cup win; they reached one more final, in 1878, and lost again. For Renny-Tailyour it was a personal triumph. The regimental journal credits him with all three of his side's goals across the two matches, and he remains the only person to have represented Scotland at both association football and rugby union.[7][9][3]

How the match unfolded

  1. 30'Alexander Bonsor puts Old Etonians ahead direct from a corner-kick, taking full advantage of the strong wind at their backs.[7][4]
  2. 37'Cuthbert Ottaway is carried off with an injured ankle after a collision with Richard Ruck, leaving Old Etonians a man short for most of the rest of the match.[1][6]
  3. shortly after the turnaroundHenry Renny-Tailyour equalises for the Royal Engineers within five minutes of the sides changing ends, with the wind now behind them.[7][1]
  4. after extra timeThe match finishes 1-1. An extra half-hour is played under a pre-match arrangement, but neither side can score again and a replay is fixed for three days later.[7][4]

The replay

The first FA Cup final ever to be drawn was played again just three days later, in calmer weather and with several changes to the Old Etonians side.

Royal EngineersWinners of the replay
2-0
Old EtoniansRunners-up
Date
Tuesday 16 March 1875
Venue
Kennington Oval
Attendance
3,000The crowd was around three thousand, a larger gate than the drawn first match.[1][5]
Referee
Charles W. Alcock (Wanderers)[1][5]
Scorers
Henry Renny-Tailyour 15'
Henry Renny-Tailyour 75'[1][5]

Changes from the first match

  1. 15'Henry Renny-Tailyour opens the scoring from a goalmouth scramble after a free kick.[7]
  2. 75'Henry Renny-Tailyour scores his second after a concerted surge of the Engineers forwards.[7]

Match facts

Date
Saturday 13 March 1875
Venue
Kennington Oval, London
Attendance
2,000Modern reference works give 2,000. The Observer reported 'over 1,000', so the true gate is unknown.[1][4]
Referee
Charles W. Alcock (Wanderers)[1][4]
Scorers
Alexander Bonsor 30'
Henry Renny-Tailyour[1][4]
Half-time
0-1
Competition
1874-75 FA Cup

Where they played

Both sides as they lined up. Choose any player to read what they did in this final.

Royal Engineers · 2-2-6
1Merriman2Sim3Onslow4Ruck5von Donop6Wood7Rawson8Stafford9Renny-Tailyour10Mein11Wingfield-Stratford
Old Etonians · 2-3-5
1Farmer2Wilson3Thompson4Lubbock5Benson6Kenyon-Slaney7Patton8Bonsor9Ottaway10Kinnaird11Stronge

Select a shirt for that player's note.

Route to the final

Royal Engineers

  1. First round: Great Marlow (Chatham Lines) won 3-0
  2. Second round: Cambridge University (The Oval) won 5-0
  3. Third round: Clapham Rovers (Chatham Lines) won 3-2
  4. Semi-final: Oxford University (The Oval) drew 1-1, replay (The Oval) won 1-0

Old Etonians

  1. First round: Swifts (The Meadows, Eton) drew 0-0, replay (Dolphin Ground, Slough) drew 1-1, second replay (The Meadows, Eton) won 3-0
  2. Second round: bye
  3. Third round: Maidenhead (The Oval) won 1-0
  4. Semi-final: Shropshire Wanderers (The Oval) won 1-0

Line-ups

Royal Engineers · 2-2-6

  1. Capt. William Merriman Goalkeeper
  2. Lieut. George H. Sim Full back
  3. Lieut. Gerald Onslow Full back
  4. Lieut. Richard Ruck Half back
  5. Lieut. Pelham von Donop Half back
  6. Lieut. Charles Wood Forward
  7. Lieut. Herbert Rawson Forward
  8. Lieut. William Stafford Forward
  9. Capt. Henry Renny-Tailyour Forward, captain, scored the equaliser and both replay goals
  10. Lieut. Alexander Mein Forward
  11. Lieut. Cecil Wingfield-Stratford Forward
Captain: Capt. Henry Renny-Tailyour

Old Etonians · 2-3-5

  1. Charles Farmer Goalkeeper
  2. Francis Wilson Full back
  3. Albert Thompson Full back
  4. Edgar Lubbock Half back
  5. Robert Benson Half back
  6. William Kenyon-Slaney Half back
  7. Frederick Patton Forward
  8. Alexander Bonsor Forward, scored the first-match goal
  9. Cuthbert Ottaway Forward, carried off injured in the first match
  10. Hon. Arthur Kinnaird Forward
  11. Sir James Stronge Forward

Trivia and detail

How well do you know the 1875 final?

Five questions. Every answer is sourced from the material on this page.

  1. Which team won the 1875 FA Cup final after a replay?

    Answer

    Royal Engineers. Royal Engineers beat Old Etonians 2-0 in the replay at the Oval, winning the cup at the third attempt.[7][1]

  2. Who scored the equaliser for Royal Engineers in the drawn first match?

    Answer

    Henry Renny-Tailyour. Renny-Tailyour finished the move started by Pelham von Donop to make it 1-1.[7][1]

  3. Why did the teams change ends after Old Etonians scored the first goal?

    Answer

    It was required by the laws of the game at the time. The laws then in force required teams to change ends after every goal scored.[7][1]

  4. Which Old Etonian was carried off injured in the first match?

    Answer

    Cuthbert Ottaway. Ottaway injured his ankle in a collision with Richard Ruck and could not take part in the replay.[1][6]

  5. How many goals did Henry Renny-Tailyour score across the two matches, according to the Royal Engineers Journal?

    Answer

    Three. The regimental journal credits him with the equaliser in the first match and both goals in the 2-0 replay win.[7][1]

What is not settled

Honesty matters more than tidiness. These details are contested or unrecorded, and we have not guessed at them:

How we know

Every claim on this page is tied to a numbered source below. These are the contemporary records behind it, each one fetched and matched word for word before publication rather than taken on trust:

Where a primary record and a modern account disagree, we show both rather than choosing the tidier number.

Sources

  1. 1875 FA Cup final · Wikipedia
  2. 1874-75 FA Cup · Wikipedia
  3. List of FA Cup finals · Wikipedia
  4. Royal Engineers v Old Etonians 1-1, FA Cup final, 13 March 1875 · Play Up, Liverpool
  5. Royal Engineers v Old Etonians 2-0, FA Cup final replay, 16 March 1875 · Play Up, Liverpool
  6. FA Cup Final: 1875 - Royal Engineers 2 Old Etonians 0 · FA Cup Finals
  7. Royal Engineers Win the Cup! · Royal Engineers Museum
  8. FA Cup classic replayed! · The Football Association
  9. Henry Renny-Tailyour · Wikipedia

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